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	<title>Comments on: IoT Security as Externality: Cluelessness, Denial, and more</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Vétillard</title>
		<link>http://javacard.vetilles.com/2016/11/21/iot-security-as-externality-cluelessness-denial-and-more/#comment-28764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Vétillard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on the importance of economics in that area, but like Schneier and others, I am afraid that the market will not spontaneously regulate itself.

There is a very strong incentive in IT markets to get a product out before the others to grab a dominant position as fast as possible, and no incentive to slow down and design a secure offer.

So, including security in a connected product today is a strategic mistake and a waste of money. Time to market is so much more important. 

Customers don&#039;t really care either, and I don&#039;t see cloud vendors or MNOs saying things like &quot;you&#039;re out of my cloud/network if you system isn&#039;t secure&quot;.

So, I am not a fan of regulation, but there is no credible alternative today, and the time is counted. When some hackers takes down a big chunk of internet or kills a few persons, then regulation will step in hard in panic mode, and that doesn&#039;t sound good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on the importance of economics in that area, but like Schneier and others, I am afraid that the market will not spontaneously regulate itself.</p>
<p>There is a very strong incentive in IT markets to get a product out before the others to grab a dominant position as fast as possible, and no incentive to slow down and design a secure offer.</p>
<p>So, including security in a connected product today is a strategic mistake and a waste of money. Time to market is so much more important. </p>
<p>Customers don&#8217;t really care either, and I don&#8217;t see cloud vendors or MNOs saying things like &#8220;you&#8217;re out of my cloud/network if you system isn&#8217;t secure&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, I am not a fan of regulation, but there is no credible alternative today, and the time is counted. When some hackers takes down a big chunk of internet or kills a few persons, then regulation will step in hard in panic mode, and that doesn&#8217;t sound good.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiana R.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiana R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was about to write tons of things but actually, the following three lines, from schneir&#039;s blog, that you referenced at the very beginning of your article, summarizes my thoughts:

&quot;Information security is not a technological problem. It is an economics problem. And the way to improve information security is to fix the economics problem.&quot;

Some people spend time to create needs and wants, and competitiveness creates a kind of race that is getting uncontrollable, and more particularly with &quot;gadgets&quot;. 

As the final end user has so many choices, almost anyone can come and propose a service that probably already exist, yet, it does not matter because people like to have &quot;the choice&quot;.

In my opinion, the best solution (but not my favorite one) would be a natural self-regulation of the market, namely, few big actors/companies must take the lead and stop this frenetic race to &quot;the-most-connected-device&quot;.

The only analogy I have in mind right now is the law of jungle where natural predatorS (I insist with the &quot;S&quot;) must control some different territories.

I don&#039;t think that government and laws can be a solution as some people suggest, unless those laws are applied to the whole world instead of only few small countries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to write tons of things but actually, the following three lines, from schneir&#8217;s blog, that you referenced at the very beginning of your article, summarizes my thoughts:</p>
<p>&#8220;Information security is not a technological problem. It is an economics problem. And the way to improve information security is to fix the economics problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some people spend time to create needs and wants, and competitiveness creates a kind of race that is getting uncontrollable, and more particularly with &#8220;gadgets&#8221;. </p>
<p>As the final end user has so many choices, almost anyone can come and propose a service that probably already exist, yet, it does not matter because people like to have &#8220;the choice&#8221;.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the best solution (but not my favorite one) would be a natural self-regulation of the market, namely, few big actors/companies must take the lead and stop this frenetic race to &#8220;the-most-connected-device&#8221;.</p>
<p>The only analogy I have in mind right now is the law of jungle where natural predatorS (I insist with the &#8220;S&#8221;) must control some different territories.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that government and laws can be a solution as some people suggest, unless those laws are applied to the whole world instead of only few small countries.</p>
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