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	<title>Comments on: Google sucks, or why it is nice to pay sometimes</title>
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		<title>By: Eric VÃ©tillard</title>
		<link>https://javacard.vetilles.com/2012/09/22/google-sucks-or-why-it-is-nice-to-pay-sometimes/#comment-4578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric VÃ©tillard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Martijn Thanks for your support.

I finally worked this out the stupid way, by giving 30 cents to Google and associating my daughter&#039;s e-mail to my identity. It&#039;s a bit ridiculous, but well, too bad. She just won&#039;t be able to use Google+, but that isn&#039;t a big loss. IN two weeks, she will be a very happy and legal Facebook user (I am not endorsing Facebook here, but she clearly is, like 99% of her friends).

And, by the way, after a little more support, I am now a happy user of Amazon Cloud Player, about ready to pay $25 to put all my music there, just to be able to listen to any element of my music collection when I want to (and continue getting great support).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martijn Thanks for your support.</p>
<p>I finally worked this out the stupid way, by giving 30 cents to Google and associating my daughter&#8217;s e-mail to my identity. It&#8217;s a bit ridiculous, but well, too bad. She just won&#8217;t be able to use Google+, but that isn&#8217;t a big loss. IN two weeks, she will be a very happy and legal Facebook user (I am not endorsing Facebook here, but she clearly is, like 99% of her friends).</p>
<p>And, by the way, after a little more support, I am now a happy user of Amazon Cloud Player, about ready to pay $25 to put all my music there, just to be able to listen to any element of my music collection when I want to (and continue getting great support).</p>
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		<title>By: Martijn Oostdijk</title>
		<link>https://javacard.vetilles.com/2012/09/22/google-sucks-or-why-it-is-nice-to-pay-sometimes/#comment-4577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martijn Oostdijk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this comes too late, but according to the Data Liberation Front (http://www.dataliberation.org/google/gmail) you can get your emails out via IMAP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this comes too late, but according to the Data Liberation Front (<a href="http://www.dataliberation.org/google/gmail" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.dataliberation.org/google/gmail</a>) you can get your emails out via IMAP.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
		<link>https://javacard.vetilles.com/2012/09/22/google-sucks-or-why-it-is-nice-to-pay-sometimes/#comment-4516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smells like a business opportunity to be... CBC: Cloud Backup for the Cloud. 

Actually some people are on it already. One example : https://www.backupify.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smells like a business opportunity to be&#8230; CBC: Cloud Backup for the Cloud. </p>
<p>Actually some people are on it already. One example : <a href="https://www.backupify.com/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">https://www.backupify.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric VÃ©tillard</title>
		<link>https://javacard.vetilles.com/2012/09/22/google-sucks-or-why-it-is-nice-to-pay-sometimes/#comment-4514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric VÃ©tillard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, there have been many similar stories on internet, in many countries of the world. Sadly, they don&#039;t seem to end well very often.

I also agree with both your comments. The funny thing is that my home computer has a coud backup, but not my cloud data. Or at least, my cloud data is not protected against my cloud providers (Google in this case). I guess that I should change that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, there have been many similar stories on internet, in many countries of the world. Sadly, they don&#8217;t seem to end well very often.</p>
<p>I also agree with both your comments. The funny thing is that my home computer has a coud backup, but not my cloud data. Or at least, my cloud data is not protected against my cloud providers (Google in this case). I guess that I should change that.</p>
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		<title>By: David G.</title>
		<link>https://javacard.vetilles.com/2012/09/22/google-sucks-or-why-it-is-nice-to-pay-sometimes/#comment-4513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel sorry for your daughter&#039;s loss. This probably happen quite often : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/hey-google-thanks-for-making-my-daughter-cry/2011/12/12/gIQAhYx9pO_blog.html

Anyway, a couple of comments :
-- Amazon&#039;s support is just very good. I never had any issue with them not doing the right thing. I&#039;m not fully sure that it is related to the fact that you&#039;re paying or not. People who pay for Google Apps still find the support lacking.
-- Cloud backup is an issue which is not going away. For email it is trivial (just use a rich mail client from time to time) but for anything more complicated one need to think carefully about what happen when the provider stops providing the service or just goes up in flames.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for your daughter&#8217;s loss. This probably happen quite often : <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/hey-google-thanks-for-making-my-daughter-cry/2011/12/12/gIQAhYx9pO_blog.html" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/hey-google-thanks-for-making-my-daughter-cry/2011/12/12/gIQAhYx9pO_blog.html</a></p>
<p>Anyway, a couple of comments :<br />
&#8212; Amazon&#8217;s support is just very good. I never had any issue with them not doing the right thing. I&#8217;m not fully sure that it is related to the fact that you&#8217;re paying or not. People who pay for Google Apps still find the support lacking.<br />
&#8212; Cloud backup is an issue which is not going away. For email it is trivial (just use a rich mail client from time to time) but for anything more complicated one need to think carefully about what happen when the provider stops providing the service or just goes up in flames.</p>
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